Conversations With People Who Hate Me with Dylan Marron

June 16, 2022

This week on Your Undivided Attention, we’re doing something different: we’re airing an episode of another podcast that’s also part of the TED Audio Collective.

Backing up for a moment: we recently aired an episode with Dylan Marron — creator and host of the podcast, Conversations With People Who Hate Me. On his show, Dylan calls up the people behind negative comments on the internet, and asks them: why did you write that?

In our conversation with Dylan, we played a clip from episode 2 of Conversations With People Who Hate Me. In that episode, Dylan talks with a high school student named Josh, who’d sent him homophobic messages online. This week, we're airing that full episode — the full conversation between Dylan Marron and Josh.

If you didn’t hear our episode with Dylan, do give it a listen. Then, enjoy this second episode of Conversations With People Who Hate Me.


Dylan Marron is the host and creator of Conversations with People Who Hate Me, the award-winning and critically-acclaimed podcast that connects adversarial strangers on phone calls. His recently published book—also titled Conversations with People Who Hate Me—was praised by the Associated Press as “a fascinating meditation on human connection and on finding common ground with people you never thought possible." His TED Talk ‘Empathy is Not Endorsement’ has been viewed millions of times worldwide and he recently joined the writing staff of the Emmy-winning Apple TV+ series Ted Lasso.

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